How about quantum electro-dynamics?ANDERSON:
It was too hard for me. I'm not a formalist. I did listen to some of those lectures. I found the formalism forbidding. I only later came to understand that kind of formalism. I'm lazy. I'm mentally lazy. I believe in using only the tools that are necessary for the job. If I've got a serious problem and it's my problem that I have to solve, I'll go on inventing formalism until I find the answer. But in general I avoid the formalism if I possibly can.KOJEVNIKOV:
Among other physicists, who do you think is the closest to you in style?ANDERSON:
Well some of them are experimentalists. I've always thought that Nicolaas Bloembergen and I were very similar. He's half a theorist, or say six tenths experimentalist and four tenths theorist, and I'm more like six tenths theorist and four tenths experimentalist. So that's fairly close. This is immodest of me, and I say this with all modesty, but I think Fermi worked the way I worked. He really was focused on the experimental question. And then he would do formalism if he had to solve it. And Van very much so. Van was no formalist. The reason I was rescued from complete ignorance of formalism was that I had these courses from Schwinger, and so I learned the Green's function formulas and some of that aspect of physics. But that was another thing about the nuclear physics. The Schwinger group of students and the few students who were working with Furry, they were focused on formalism. And I wanted to really explain experimental facts. So when Van gave me this problem—
The supreme task of the physicist is to arrive at those universal elementary laws from which the cosmos can be built up by pure deduction. There is no logical path to these laws; only intuition, resting on sympathetic understanding of experience, can reach them
Monday, February 28, 2011
Anderson in an interview
Accoustic diode
The device consists of a two-dimensional sonic crystal arranged in a mesh of square steel rods. By rotating the steel rods, Li et al. are able to manipulate the unit cell of the sonic crystal element to turn the diode on (sound waves only propagate one way) and off (sound waves can move back and forth). Furthermore, Li et al. make their device entirely from linear acoustic materials, which allows them to control sound propagation with a simpler and more efficient process, over a broader bandwidth, and with lower power consumption, compared to existing nonlinear sonic-crystal-based devices.
Anderson and Scalapino talk on Science
[Anderson]:
I do not, however, accept that Scalapino’s calculations, refined as they are, come near to settling the question he has raised. The numerical analysis of Scalapino’s reference 7, and the analysis of experiments in his references 8 and 9, all have, logically, two pieces. To take ref 7 for definiteness, Scalapino’s group does two computations. The first, while difficult, is logically unimpeachable: It is a carefully designed simulation of the properties of the Hubbard model which we both agree is by far the main Hamiltonian candidate. Sure enough, they find d-wave superconductivity and other physical properties that agree with experiments—and also with much simpler mean field theories (1).
In step 2, they attempt to derive from the measured quantities a number of theoretical constructs, such as the "pairing interaction vertex," assuming that the underlying theory is the conventional Feynman-Dyson diagram theory as adapted for condensed matter problems in the 1960s. Thus, the procedure, far from being a purely direct computational result, is a theoretical construct with a very relevant input of unproven assumptions. The interaction vertex which is derived does not look at all like the J term in the Hamiltonian; it is much smaller than it should be, at high energies, growing to its full strength only at the lowest energies.
This is an unlikely result. It says that somehow all the low-frequency spin fluctuations have killed this giant interaction at the high-frequency end, but left it intact at low frequency to do its work on the pairing gap. It amounts to replacing my "elephant" J with almost nothing but its indirect consequences. It also contradicts the simplest mean field theory of the t-J model (ref 1, called because of its simplicity the "Plain Vanilla" theory).
If I found a result which so blatantly did not make physical sense, I might have questioned the method rather than attacking those of us who seem to have found the right answers by doing things otherwise. It is very attractive to abandon these particular methodological assumptions, because the same set of assumptions, applied in the normal state of the same materials, have had zero success in describing its unique and very anomalous properties.
[Scalapino]:
While there is a growing consensus that superconductivity in the high Tc cuprates arises from strong short-range Coulomb interactions between electrons rather than the traditional electron-phonon interaction, the precise nature of the pairing interaction remains controversial (1). This is the case even among those who agree that the essential physics of the cuprates is contained in the Hubbard model (Perspectives, "Is there glue in cuprate superconductors?", by P. W. Anderson, 22 June 2007, p. 1705). For example, both Anderson’s resonating-valence-based (RVB) theory (2) and the spin-fluctuation exchange theory (3, 4) lead to a short-range interaction which forms d x2−y2 pairs. However, the dynamics of the two interactions differ.
In the RVB picture, the superconducting phase is envisioned as arising out of a Mott-liquid of fluctuating singlet pairs. These pairs are bound by a superexchange interaction J which is proportional to t2/U. Here t is the effective hopping matrix element between adjacent sites and U is an onsite Coulomb interaction. J is determined by the virtual hopping of an electron of a given spin to an adjacent site containing an electron with an opposite spin (5). Thus the dynamics of J involves virtual excitations above the Mott gap which is set by U, and the pairing interaction is essentially instantaneous. In this case, as Anderson recently discussed (6), one would not speak of a pairing glue.
In the spin-fluctuation exchange picture, the pairing is viewed as arising from the exchange of particle-hole spin 1 fluctuations whose dynamics reflect the frequency spectrum seen in inelastic magnetic neutron scattering. This spectrum covers an energy range which is small compared with U or the bare bandwidth 8t. In this case, the pairing interaction is retarded and in analogy to the traditional phonon mediated pairing, one says that the spin-fluctuations provide the pairing glue.
Thus, the question of whether there is pairing glue in the cuprates is a question about the dynamics of the pairing interaction. It offers a way of distinguishing different theories. For the Hubbard model, recent numerical calculations (7) have shown that the strongest pairing occurs for U of order the bandwidth 8t. This is also thought to be the parameter regime appropriate to the cuprates. In this regime, these calculations find that the dynamic dependence of the pairing interaction is the same as that of the dynamic spin susceptibility. Thus, there is pairing glue in the Hubbard model.
Of course, the ultimate question is: What does the experiment tell us about the dynamics of the pairing interaction? Just as the spatial structure of the pairing interaction can be determined from the k-dependence of the superconducting gap, the dynamics of the interaction is reflected in the frequency dependence of the gap. In addition, if the interaction is retarded, that is delayed for a time of order ћ/(2J), the gap will have both a real and an imaginary component. This frequency structure of the gap is reflected in a variety of experiments and analysis of structure in the angular resolved photoemission spectrum (8), and the infrared conductivity (9) have suggested that the dynamics is indeed determined by spin-fluctuations. However, as opposed to the Hubbard model, real materials have phonons and alternative explanations have also been proposed (10). Thus, while there is pairing glue in the Hubbard model, more experimental work is needed to settle the question of whether there is glue in the cuprate superconductors.
Superfluid Exists in the core of a neutron star
Sunday, February 27, 2011
Quantum control using unsharp measurements
[1]Ashhab, S. & Nori, F. Phys. Rev. A 82, 062103 (2010)
Couterflow
Thursday, February 24, 2011
Strong interaction makes better clocks !
BEC is like laser, with perfect coherence: from an experimental point of view
A major advance in understanding the behavior of light was to describe the coherence of a light source by using correlation functions that define the spatio-temporal relationship between pairs and larger groups of photons. Correlations are also a fundamental property of matter. We performed simultaneous measurement of the second- and third-order correlation functions for atoms. Atom bunching in the arrival time for pairs and triplets of thermal atoms just above the Bose-Einstein condensation (BEC) temperature was observed. At lower temperatures, we demonstrated conclusively the long-range coherence of the BEC for correlation functions to third order, which supports the prediction that like coherent light, a BEC possesses long-range coherence to all orders.
Faculty members in conflict with the university president
The controversy has been simmering for more than three years, during which critics have repeatedly questioned the results of the four papers1–4 by Inoue. An internal committee at the university assessed the criticisms and ruled that a formal investigation was not warranted. In the committee's December 2007 report, senior officials questioned whether the criticism was motivated by "malice" and "divorced from a pure concern for academic development". Since then, university faculty members have repeated the criticisms and raised others. But Inoue, a prolific specialist in an unusual form of alloy called metallic glasses, told Nature that his team has unique skills and experience in producing the alloys, which could explain why other scientists have failed to reproduce some of his lab's results.
.......But in May 2007, a series of anonymous letters began arriving at Tohoku University and other places alleging that the four papers1–4 co-authored by Inoue in the 1990s contained inconsistencies in the way that the data were presented. The letters also alleged that others in the field had been unable to reproduce the results.
In response to these allegations, Tetsuo Shoji, the university's executive vice-president for research affairs at the time, formed a five-person committee to decide whether a full-scale investigation was warranted. In December 2007, the committee issued a 12-page report that said there were "no rational grounds" for a full investigation. On the problem of irreproducibility, the report said: "various factors including the purity of materials … the cooling method, the protocols, temperature control, moisture control and time control can bring about differences in results, making it easy to imagine how problems in reproducing work might exist among researchers."
Nine metallic-glass experts outside Japan contacted by Nature generally lauded Inoue's contribution to the field. At least one, however, had specifically tried to produce some of the metallic glasses described in the papers1–4 under discussion but had failed to achieve the large dimensions reported by Inoue. Two others were unable to reproduce other metallic-glass results from Inoue's laboratory.
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Omura and other critics also point out, however, that the committee included three people (Shoji, Makoto Watanabe and Keiichi Noe) who had been promoted to their current positions as executive vice-presidents by Inoue since he became university president in 2006. Inoue denies any influence over the committee's make-up. Shoji says that he and other committee members discussed the problem of conflict of interest but decided they would "be able to fairly evaluate the situation". Some critics believe that actual fairness is not enough, and that such a committee must also be seen to be free of any potential conflicts of interest.
In April 2008, university officials rebuffed Omura's letter, defending both the committee's operations and its conclusions.
But in July 2008, 11 researchers from Tohoku's Institute of Multidisciplinary Research for Advanced Materials sent a petition to the university calling for further explanation of the investigating committee's initial report. Attached to the petition was a covering letter by the institute's director, Fumio Saito (who had not signed the petition himself). Then, just over a month later, Saito sent a letter to all university divisions apologizing for implying in his covering letter that the petition expressed "the collective opinion of the institute". Saito's apology added to the controversy.
In yet another twist, in April 2009 a university committee chaired by Inoue temporarily postponed the granting of emeritus status to two retiring faculty members who had been involved with Omura on a website that collects information about the dispute. Emeritus status is customarily granted to retiring professors who have been at the university for at least seven years, as both had been. According to Yukihisa Kitamura, an executive vice-president at Tohoku University, it was a "rare" measure taken while the two were under investigation for allegedly "dishonouring the university" by being involved with the website. In June, with the investigation still under way, the university granted the two emeritus status.
The unrest looks set to continue. During April and May last year, three key science-funding agencies — the science and education ministry, the Science and Technology Agency and the New Energy and Industrial Technology Development Organization — all asked Tohoku University to evaluate accusations raised by Omura and three others. Citing confidentiality rules, a lawyer representing Inoue and Tohoku University declined to say what actions the university would take in response to the requests. Zhang has not responded to Nature 's request for further comment.
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Japan has no external body, akin to the US Office of Research Integrity, for investigating alleged scientific misconduct, despite calls for one from some quarters16. Only the minister of education has authority over a university president, and Kosaku Okada, a representative from the ministry's division familiar with the case, says that the ministry will not get involved. "We see the president as just another scientist and so we leave it up to the university to do any investigation," he says. But an independent investigation may be the only way to silence the critics.
Nonlinear dynamics are not easy !!
The formal problem of the stability of rotating flow was first addressed by Lord Rayleigh in the late nineteenth century7. Rayleigh found that if the rotational velocity of a fluid decreases more rapidly with radius than the reciprocal of the distance from the axis of rotation, such a system is unstable to infinitesimal perturbations. Astrophysical disks, by this criterion, should be stable. But Rayleigh's analysis was restricted to vanishingly small disturbances, and the geometrical shape of the perturbations was in the form of rings with cylindrical symmetry. It is still not known what types of flow that are formally stable by this Rayleigh criterion might still be unstable to more general forms of disturbance; it is known, however, that some types of Rayleigh-stable flow certainly can be destabilized4, 8. The issue of interest is whether the rotation of an astrophysical gas disk about a central mass falls into this unstable category.
This problem can be investigated in the laboratory by studying what is known as Couette flow. In a Couette apparatus, water is confined to flow in the space between two coaxial cylinders. There should be no motion along the central axis, only rotational flow about the axis. The cylinders rotate independently of one another, so that small frictional viscous forces near the cylindrical walls will set up a hydrodynamical flow in which the rotational velocity depends on the distance from the rotation axis. By choosing the rotational velocities of the rotating cylinders appropriately, a small section of an astrophysical disk can be mimicked in the laboratory. In such a disk, the flow velocity is inversely proportional to the square root of the distance from the centre, a pattern known as Keplerian flow. The question to be answered is whether Keplerian flow, formally stable by the Rayleigh criterion, actually breaks down into turbulence.
......It is this question that Paoletti and Lathrop1 have sought to address. When a Couette flow becomes turbulent, one of the consequences is a greatly enhanced outward flux of angular momentum, which is imparted to the outer cylinder in the form of a torque. In their experiment, the authors measure this torque directly. An earlier investigation9 had claimed to detect this torque, but the new experiment1 was conducted under conditions in which (undesirable) viscous effects were more effectively minimized.
Close on the heels of Paoletti and Lathrop's claim, however, comes a report by Schartman et al.10 on a related experiment. These investigators found no transition to turbulence for Keplerian flow with the same controlled level of viscosity. This null result was first reported3 in 2006, and the most recent paper maintains its original conclusion that there is no evidence of a turbulent breakdown of Keplerian-like laminar flow for very small values of the viscosity.
Trapped ions realize coupled harmonic oscillators
[doi:10.1038/nature09800] More than 100 years ago, Hertz succeeded in transmitting signals over a few metres to a receiving antenna using an electromagnetic oscillator, thus proving the electromagnetic theory1 developed by Maxwell. Since this seminal work, technology has developed, and various oscillators are now available at the quantum mechanical level. For quantized electromagnetic oscillations, atoms in cavities can be used to couple electric fields2, 3. However, a quantum mechanical link between two mechanical oscillators (such as cantilevers4, 5 or the vibrational modes of trapped atoms6 or ions7, 8) has been rarely demonstrated and has been achieved only indirectly. Examples include the mechanical transport of atoms carrying quantum information9 or the use of spontaneously emitted photons10. Here we achieve direct coupling between the motional dipoles of separately trapped ions over a distance of 54 micrometres, using the dipole–dipole interaction as a quantum mechanical transmission line11. This interaction is small between single trapped ions, but the coupling is amplified by using additional trapped ions as antennae. With three ions in each well, the interaction is increased by a factor of seven compared to the single-ion case. This enhancement facilitates bridging of larger distances and relaxes the constraints on the miniaturization of trap electrodes. The system provides a building block for quantum computers and opportunities for coupling different types of quantum systems.
[doi:10.1038/nature09721] The harmonic oscillator is one of the simplest physical systems but also one of the most fundamental. It is ubiquitous in nature, often serving as an approximation for a more complicated system or as a building block in larger models. Realizations of harmonic oscillators in the quantum regime include electromagnetic fields in a cavity1, 2, 3 and the mechanical modes of a trapped atom4 or macroscopic solid5. Quantized interaction between two motional modes of an individual trapped ion has been achieved by coupling through optical fields6, and entangled motion of two ions in separate locations has been accomplished indirectly through their internal states7. However, direct controllable coupling between quantized mechanical oscillators held in separate locations has not been realized previously. Here we implement such coupling through the mutual Coulomb interaction of two ions held in trapping potentials separated by 40 μm (similar work is reported in a related paper8). By tuning the confining wells into resonance, energy is exchanged between the ions at the quantum level, establishing that direct coherent motional coupling is possible for separately trapped ions. The system demonstrates a building block for quantum information processing and quantum simulation. More broadly, this work is a natural precursor to experiments in hybrid quantum systems, such as coupling a trapped ion to a quantized macroscopic mechanical or electrical oscillator.
Wednesday, February 23, 2011
Geometric frustration occurs to (Ba,Sr)TiO3 ferroelectrics
Geometric frustration is a broad phenomenon that results from an intrinsic incompatibility between some fundamental interactions and the underlying lattice geometry1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Geometric frustration gives rise to new fundamental phenomena and is known to yield intriguing effects such as the formation of exotic states like spin ice, spin liquids and spin glasses1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. It has also led to interesting findings of fractional charge quantization and magnetic monopoles5, 6. Mechanisms related to geometric frustration have been proposed to understand the origins of relaxor and multiferroic behaviour, colossal magnetocapacitive coupling, and unusual and novel mechanisms of high-transition-temperature superconductivity3, 4, 5, 12, 16. Although geometric frustration has been particularly well studied in magnetic systems in the past 20 years or so, its manifestation in the important class formed by ferroelectric materials (which are compounds with electric rather than magnetic dipoles) is basically unknown. Here we show, using a technique based on first principles, that compositionally graded ferroelectrics possess the characteristic ‘fingerprints’ associated with geometric frustration. These systems have a highly degenerate energy surface and display critical phenomena. They further reveal exotic orderings with novel stripe phases involving complex spatial organization. These stripes display spiral states, topological defects and curvature. Compositionally graded ferroelectrics can thus be considered the ‘missing link’ that brings ferroelectrics into the broad category of materials able to exhibit geometric frustration. Our ab initio calculations allow deep microscopic insight into this novel geometrically frustrated system.
Engineering open quantum systems
The dynamics of an open quantum system S coupled to an environment E can be described by the unitary transformation , with ρSE the joint density matrix of the composite system S + E. Thus, the reduced density operator of the system will evolve as ρS = TrE(UρSEU†). The time evolution of the system can also be described by a completely positive Kraus map
with Ek operation elements satisfying , and initially uncorrelated system and environment31. If the system is decoupled from the environment, the general map (1) reduces to , with US the unitary time evolution operator acting only on the system.
Control of both coherent and dissipative dynamics is then achieved by finding corresponding sequences of maps (1) specified by sets of operation elements {Ek} and engineering these sequences in the laboratory. In particular, for the example of dissipative quantum-state preparation, pumping to an entangled state |ψ reduces to implementing appropriate sequences of dissipative maps. These maps are chosen to drive the system to the desired target state irrespective of its initial state. The resulting dynamics have then the pure state |ψ as the unique attractor, . In quantum optics and atomic physics, the techniques of optical pumping and laser cooling are successfully used for the dissipative preparation of quantum states, although on a single-particle level. The engineering of dissipative maps for the preparation of entangled states can be seen as a generalization of this concept of pumping and cooling in driven dissipative systems to a many-particle context. To be concrete, we focus on dissipative preparation of stabilizer states, which represent a large family of entangled states, including graph states and error-correcting codes32.
We start by outlining the concept of Kraus map engineering for the simplest non-trivial example of ‘pumping’ a system of two qubits into a Bell state. The Hilbert space of two qubits is spanned by the four Bell states defined as and . Here, |0 and |1 denote the computational basis of each qubit, and we use the short-hand notation |00 = |01|02, for example. These maximally entangled states are stabilizer states: the Bell state |Φ+, for instance, is said to be stabilized by the two stabilizer operators Z1Z2 and X1X2, where X and Z denote the usual Pauli matrices, as it is the only two-qubit state that is an eigenstate of eigenvalue +1 of these two commuting observables, that is, Z1Z2|Φ+ = |Φ+ and X1X2|Φ+ = |Φ+. In fact, each of the four Bell states is uniquely determined as an eigenstate with eigenvalues ±1 with respect to Z1Z2 and X1X2. The key idea of pumping is that we can achieve dissipative dynamics which pump the system into a particular Bell state, for example , by constructing two dissipative maps, under which the two qubits are irreversibly transferred from the +1 into the −1 eigenspaces of Z1Z2 and X1X2.
The dissipative maps are engineered with the aid of an ancilla ‘environment’ qubit25, 33 and a quantum circuit of coherent and dissipative operations. The form and decomposition of these maps into basic operations are discussed in Box 1. The pumping dynamics are determined by the probability of pumping from the +1 into the −1 stabilizer eigenspaces, which can be directly controlled by varying the parameters in the employed gate operations. For pumping with unit probability (p = 1), the two qubits reach the target Bell state—regardless of their initial state—after only one pumping cycle, that is, by a single application of each of the two maps. In contrast, when the pumping probability is small (p 1), the process can be regarded as the infinitesimal limit of the general map (1). In this case, the system dynamics under a repeated application of the pumping cycle are described by a master equation34:
Here HS is a system Hamiltonian, and ck are Lindblad operators reflecting the system–environment coupling. For the purely dissipative maps discussed here, HS = 0. Quantum jumps from the +1 into the −1 eigenspace of Z1Z2 and X1X2 are mediated by a set of two-qubit Lindblad operators (see Box 1 for details); here the system reaches the target Bell state asymptotically after many pumping cycles.
Competing gaps scenario for underdoped cuprates
Touching from a distance
One frequently encounters electronic circuits like this one, but how does it work ? Try to work it out ! It is an instructive exercise !
[http://physics.aps.org/articles/v4/11]
(Top) Optical micrograph of the device used by Wang et al. [1] to entangle spatially separated photons stored in superconducting resonators. A and B label the waveguide resonators, which are entangled in the experiment. The phase qubits q0 and q1 are Josephson junction phase qubits, while C is a coupling resonator used to mediate the interaction between the qubits. (Bottom) Equivalent circuit schematic for the device.
Why does it grow in the observed way ?
Sunday, February 20, 2011
Negative Linear Compressibility and Massive Anisotropic Thermal Expansion in Methanol Monohydrate
Electronic correlations are crucial in 2DEG based on STO
The formation of two-dimensional electron gases (2DEGs) at complex oxide interfaces is directly influenced by the oxide electronic properties. We investigated how local electron correlations control the 2DEG by inserting a single atomic layer of a rare-earth oxide (RO) [(R is lanthanum (La), praseodymium (Pr), neodymium (Nd), samarium (Sm), or yttrium (Y)] into an epitaxial strontium titanate oxide (SrTiO3) matrix using pulsed-laser deposition with atomic layer control. We find that structures with La, Pr, and Nd ions result in conducting 2DEGs at the inserted layer, whereas the structures with Sm or Y ions are insulating. Our local spectroscopic and theoretical results indicate that the interfacial conductivity is dependent on electronic correlations that decay spatially into the SrTiO3 matrix. Such correlation effects can lead to new functionalities in designed heterostructures.
Helical DNA filters spins
Göhler et al. (3) describe a surprisingly efficient method for electronic spin filtering. They have studied how electrons emitted by a gold substrate, upon absorption of light, pass through a self-assembled DNA monolayer on the gold surface. In particular, they have studied the spin of the electrons after their passage through the DNA layer and have found that one spin type passes through much more easily, meaning that this layer acts as a spin filter, strongly hindering the passage of the other spin type. This filter effect is observed only if the DNA is assembled on the gold surface as a closely packed ordered array of helices, and is stronger if the helices are longer, reaching selectivities of 60%. For chaotic assemblies of floppy DNA chains on the gold surface, the spin filter effect was not observed. [http://www.sciencemag.org/content/331/6019/864.full]
Saturday, February 19, 2011
flaming tornado
A movie on Einstein
HSI Films will handle worldwide sales on “Einstein” and immediately introduce the project to distributors in Berlin.
Said Eric Christenson, “Coming aboard a project that teams Wayne Wang and Ron Bass is tremendously exciting, and we have something special on our hands with ‘Einstein.’ People know the name and the theories, yet most people don't know the fascinating details of his life's story.”
Koldo Eguren added, “People don't know about his struggles with poverty, his dyslexia, his love for music, his relationships with the women in his life, his persecution by the Nazis and his battle to deal with living in the public eye and being under constant scrutiny. Ron's screenplay peels back the layers and allows us to see past Einstein the scientist and Einstein the celebrity, showing us Einstein the man.”
How do you get yourself less wet if you are caught in a rain ?
Friday, February 18, 2011
Investigating into natural lighting
We learn about lightning in school, I thought it was a closed case?
Well, we know lightning initiates up inside a thunderstorm but we're not sure how it initiates – how it gets started. In fact there are still three big questions. The first is the initiation. The second is how does it propagate, sometimes through miles of air? And the third is, when it reaches the ground – how does it choose to strike this object and not the other object?But isn't it just an electrical discharge between thunderclouds and the ground?
In a sense, but the big problem is that to get a spark, air needs to break down. It needs to stop being an insulator and start being a conductor. We commonly experience this if you touch a doorknob and you get a spark between your finger and the doorknob. What happens is the charges get concentrated into your fingertip and you get a big electric field. Then, as your finger approaches, the conventional breakdown field is reached, which is about 3 million volts per metre – and then air sparks.The problem is if you look up inside thunderclouds, the breakdown field that you need to make a spark is never found. People have been launching balloons for decades, they've been flying airplanes, they've been launching rockets...but the fields they record are not even close to this strength.